FREDERICK VALENTICH

The Frederick Valentich Incident

Posted: 12 Aug 2010 09:53 AM PDT

The Frederick Valentich Incident is probably the most significant UFO encounter in Australia. This account involves a young 20 year old pilot, Frederick Valentich, who filed a flight plan at Moorabin for a night flight to King Island where he was to pick up some friends and then fly back. King Island is in the Bass Strait between Australia and Tasmania.

On October 21st 1978 at 1819hrs, Frederick Valentich took off in his single-engined Cessna 182 from Moorabin Airport, Melbourne, Australia. As he was flying along the Bass Strait at about 5000ft altitude he told Air Traffic Controllers in Melbourne that he could see a large aircraft below him and wanted to know if they were aware of any aircraft in the area. Melbourne ATC said there were no known aircraft in the area and asked if he could identify it. Frederick said he couldn't identify it but it had four bright lights. The UFO then passed over him and appeared to be playing some sort of game with him. He said that the object was a long shape, very fast with a green light and sort of metallic, and that it was not an aircraft. The object was orbiting him and then just vanished. The UFO then reappeared approaching from the south-west. Fredrick reported that his engine was rough-idling and coughing. Melbourne ATC asked what his intentions were and he replied ' My intentions are - ah - to go to King Island - ah - Melbourne. That strange aircraft is hovering on top of me again (open microphone for two seconds). It is hovering and it's not an aircraft.'

Valentich filed a flight plan to take off from Melbourne, Victoria, Australia and to land at Kings Island, Bass Straits, Tasmania

The last transmission from Frederick Valentich was at 1912hrs and an alert was immediately declared. When at 1933hrs it was evident that the Cessna 182 (Delta Sierra Juliet) had not arrived at King Island a full scale Search and rescue operation was launched. After five days of searching no sign of the pilot or aircraft was found despite the fact that the Cessna was equipped with a radio survival beacon.

The weather at the time of this incident was clear with a trace of Stratocumulus cloud at 5000-7000ft, excellent visibility with light winds. The aircraft was fully refuelled with approximately 5hrs of flying time and was equipped with 4 life jackets. There had also been many UFO sightings from people before and after this incident. Whatever the truth may be, the fact remains that Frederick Valentich vanished in mysterious circumstances, possibly UFO related, and that the mystery lingers to this day.

Transcript of transmissions between Melbourne ATC & Frederick Valentich (Delta Sierra Juliet)

1906:14 DSJ Melbourne, this is Delta Sierra Juliet. Is there any known traffic below five thousand?
FS Delta Sierra Juliet, no known traffic.
DSJ Delta Sierra Juliet, I am, seems to be a large aircraft below five thousand.
1906:44 FS Delta Sierra Juliet, What type of aircraft is it?
DSJ Delta Sierra Juliet, I cannot affirm, it is four bright, it seems to me like landing lights.
1907 FS Delta Sierra Juliet.
1907:31 DSJ Melbourne, this is Delta Sierra Juliet, the aircraft has just passed over me at least a thousand feet above.
FS Delta Sierra Juliet, roger, and it is a large aircraft, confirmed?
DSJ Er-unknown, due to the speed it's travelling, is there any air force aircraft in the vicinity?
FS Delta Sierra Juliet, no known aircraft in the vicinity.
1908:18 DSJ Melbourne, it's approaching now from due east towards me.
FS Delta Sierra Juliet.
1908:41 DSJ (open microphone for two seconds.)
1908:48 DSJ Delta Sierra Juliet, it seems to me that he's playing some sort of game, he's flying over me two, three times at speeds I could not identify.
1909 FS Delta Sierra Juliet, roger, what is your actual level?
DSJ My level is four and a half thousand, four five zero zero.
FS Delta Sierra Juliet, and you confirm you cannot identify the aircraft?
DSJ Affirmative.
FS Delta Sierra Juliet, roger, stand by.
1909:27 DSJ Melbourne, Delta Sierra Juliet, it's not an aircraft it is (open microphone for two seconds).
1909:42 FS Delta Sierra Juliet, can you describe the -er- aircraft?
DSJ Delta Sierra Juliet, as it's flying past it's a long shape (open microphone for three seconds) cannot identify more than it has such speed (open microphone for three seconds). It's before me right now Melbourne.
1910 FS Delta Sierra Juliet, roger and how large would the - er - object be?
1910:19 DSJ Delta Sierra Juliet, Melbourne, it seems like it's stationary. What I'm doing right now is orbiting and the thing is just orbiting on top of me also. It's got a green light and sort of metallic like, it's all shiny on the outside.
FS Delta Sierra Juliet
1910:46 DSJ Delta Sierra Juliet (open microphone for three seconds) It's just vanished.
FS Delta Sierra Juliet
1911 DSJ Melbourne, would you know what kind of aircraft I've got? Is it a military aircraft?
FS Delta Sierra Juliet, Confirm the - er ~ aircraft just vanished.
DSJ Say again.
FS Delta Sierra Juliet, is the aircraft still with you?
DSJ Delta Sierra Juliet; it's (open microphone for two seconds) now approaching from the south-west.
FS Delta Sierra Juliet
1911:50 DSJ Delta Sierra Juliet, the engine is rough-idling. I've got it set at twenty three twenty-four and the thing is coughing.
FS Delta Sierra Juliet, roger, what are your intentions?
DSJ My intentions are - ah - to go to King Island - ah - Melbourne. That strange aircraft is hovering on top of me again (open microphone for two seconds). It is hovering and it's not an aircraft.
FS Delta Sierra Juliet.
1912:28 DSJ Delta Sierra Juliet. Melbourne (open microphone for seventeen seconds).




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Source: AP MELBOURNE, AUSTRALIA.

Date: October 25, 1978.

AUSTRALIAN PILOT DISAPPEARS AFTER REPORTING CHASE BY UFO'S:

Boats and aircraft have found no trace of the 20-year old Australian pilot who disappeared with his plane on Saturday night after radioing that he was being chased by a UFO. Frederick Valentich was on a 125 mile training flight in his single engine Cessna 182 along the coast of Bass Strait when he told air traffic controllers in Melbourne that he was being buzzed by a UFO with 4 bright lights about 1000 feet above him.

Controllers said his last message was taped and was: "It's approaching from due east towards me. It seems to be playing some sort of game... flying at a speed I can't estimate. It's not an aircraft. It's...It is flying past. It is a long shape. I cannot identify more than that. It's coming for me right now." A minute later: "It seems to be stationary. I'm also orbiting and the thing is orbiting on top of me also. It has a green light and a sort of metallic light on the outside." Valentich then radioed that his engine was running roughly. His last words were: "It is not an aircraft."

The Australian Air Force said it had received 11 reports from people along the coast who said they saw UFOs on Saturday night, but the Transport Department was skeptical. Ken Williams, a spokesman for the department, said, "It's funny all these people ringing up with UFO reports well after Valentich's disappearance. It seems people often decide after the event, they too had seen strange lights. But although we can't take them too seriously, we can never discourage such reports when investigating a plane's disappearance."

Some Transport Dept officials have speculated that Valentich became disoriented and saw his own lights reflected in the water, or lights from a nearby island, while flying upside down.

Valentich's father, Guio, said his son used to study UFOs "as a hobby using information he had received from the Air Force. He was not the kind of person who would make up stories. Everything had to be very correct and positive for him. The fact that they have found no trace of him really verifies the fact that UFOs could have been there." Guio Valentich said he hoped his son had not crashed but has been taken by a UFO.

NOTE: if this account wasn't already strange enough, there was another bizarre incident five years later in the Soviet Union that pertains to this case (posted below):

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Five years after:

One evening in August 1982 near the village of Iman, Primorskiy krai, Far East, Russia Lieutenant Colonel Igor Valerianovich Kazantsev, Commander of a frontier guard detachment near the hamlet of Iman, received a report of a suspicious man arrested by soldiers from his unit near the Soviet-Chinese border. One of the soldiers, Nikolay D (later to become a resident of Sevastopol, Crimea) in 2003 wrote to the Simferopol based “Secret Doctrine” Newspaper, confirming that he took over the watch on that date to watch over the Russian-Chinese border.

Approaching evening near the foot of one of the hills they saw smoke from a fire and soon detained a man about 40-years of age, dressed in a cowboy shirt, thick wide trousers, outfitted with “complete tourist gear”. The man assured the KGB sergeant that he had the necessary permission from local authorities of Primorskiy kray to do some prospecting in the area. Orders were given to detain the mysterious “geologist”. He was taken to the unit duty officer. During a search the soldiers found a very powerful searchlight and a strange dark elongated object, like a small flask with two dozen dots printed on its upper section without any visible pattern. The dots formed a strange image. Nikolay D paid special attention to the strange dot-like markings on the object.

The stranger showed a document indicating that his name was Sarychev (possibly an AKA, real name being possibly V. Sosnin). He also showed a letter from Academician Vsevolod S Troitskiy, correspondent-member of the Academy of Sciences of the USSR, Chairman of the Commission for Study of Anomalous Phenomena. (Such a commission did truly exist). The man stated that he was engaged in prospecting in the area, but soon admitted under the pressure of interrogation the he was indeed involved in “UFO research”.

The strange black flask or capsule attracted everyone’s attention. The man stated that he found the capsule at an altitude of 1204 (m over sea level). Inside the capsule a plate rolled like a tube was found. When the KGB officer extracted the plate, it immediately straightened up emitting a slight rustling sound. The plate had an English text, written with a substance bright orange in color. The text was later translated to Russian and following is an approximate translation:
“I am Frederick Valentich, Junior, pilot. I was captured together with my plane Cessna-182 by a UFO on October 21 1978 145 miles south of Melbourne. Because of very limited time and of extreme danger to my state, here is what is most important.

What was proposed to me was beyond my imagination. Later I came to the conclusion that several factors influenced my psyche, at first, the reality of the UFOs and their pilots, and secondly, their proposal for me to become the pilot of one of their aircraft(!).

Here is proof of contact with another civilization and the man who achieved this is I, Frederick Valentich. That was what I thought. But the most tempting was their fantastic proposal for me to stay in my same physical body, so I have not aged over my current 25 years of age (my age when I signed such a “contract” with the aliens). This proposal “eclipsed everything” even those few purely human affections I’ve had. At the moment of the deal I remembered only that my mother had died, I am single with no children. I didn’t even remember my aunt and two of my ex girlfriends I have been close with, this is additional evidence of a strong psychological influence put upon me.

The giant UFO I have to work in is a “cargo ship”. The crew, except those humans which were captured just like me, are 2-3 aliens. All belong to a civilization located in the Pleiades constellation and represent an interplanetary organization with 6 civilizations from Orion, Swan and the Big Dog constellation; our Solar system is also part of it.

Like us they’re also albumen organic entities, breathing oxygen and of similar body build.

Answering such questions like, what are they doing here, they stated on numerous occasions that they were engaged in research work. But according to my own observations that is only a mere screen covering their “real” activities and to calm the conscience of other earthlings who signed such compelling contacts like mine.

Our basic load from Earth---is liquid oxygen obtained from plants installed onboard the ship. These “researchers” impudently steal the most valuable part of Earthly atmosphere. And idiots like me are actively helping them in this. The main route of our craft—Earth and Jupiter’s satellite Callisto where a huge constantly operating base is located.

Oxygen is loaded into balloons made of plastic-metal. Volume can be estimated in weight---the large balloon weighs no less than 110 pounds, the smaller ones—2 times less than that. The maximum quantity of balloons that our ship has taken for one flight to Callisto is more than 12,000 large and 5k small balloons. Imagine how much oxygen they take from Earth! We make 2 flights per week sometimes. God help me and those who find this letter! Russian or Chinese---I ask to give this capsule to the Australian embassy and to the representatives of our embassy, give it to scientists for further study!!!”

To establish the authenticity of this material evidence, it was sent to several scientific research laboratories of the USSR for secret analyses. Results of the research exceeded all expectations. Documents with the results of the study were compiled, stamped and signed by the expert laboratory of KGB USSR, document dated September 29 1982. Institute of Astronomy of USSR dated October 10 1982. Institute of the Technical Physics USSR, Chelyabinsk-40 (nuclear military industrial center), and dated November 12 1982, all the documents were classified TOP SECRET.

Here is the opinion of a member-correspondent of the Academy of Sciences of the USSR Dr. Nechai PhD, addressed to the special expert commission in the Presidium of the Academy of Sciences of the USSR. “The amazing physical and mechanical characteristics of the materials, their uncommon chemical compound and structure allow to make the following conclusions:

- …materials obtained by the technologies, unknown yet to humankind and apparently outside the Earth. The plate is the source of unknown radioactive emanation of colossal penetrating ability and spoils all other types of cinema and photo films…

- Many other facts, described by Valentich were summoned to the systematic analyses according to modernized authorship-detection program created in our institute. The result, the author, Frederick Valentich couldn’t invent all of that alone and even to extract that from known science fiction literature, actually being taken onboard a UFO in 1978…”

What happened to the material evidence next is the following. The mysterious plate was transferred to the Australian embassy. A special commission was created there; a graphic, logical study was made. Style and grammar of the letter was compared with other material written by Valentich, obtained from the Melbourne Air Club (like flight records written by Valentich). The Australian commission came to the conclusion that the text on the plate and the records in the flight journal from the Melbourne aviation club belonged to one and the same person---none other than Frederick Valentich. The evidence was so strong that it was ready to go to court.

Unfortunately for humanity the cover up was effective and everything was classified TOP SECRET, possibly with the participation of the American CIA. Where the alien capsule with the letter is now, is not known, possibly in the USA (in a deep basement under the Pentagon?).

Perhaps even more alarming is a case investigated by Spanish researcher Manuel Carballal. According to the testimony of a number of witnesses, a young man who identified himself as Frederick Valentich, the Australian pilot who mysteriously disappeared in 1978 was alive and well in 1990 at Plaza del Charco, a seaport square on the island of Tenerife in the Canary Islands. Displaying an Australian passport to prove his claim, Valentich told those with whom he spoke on several occasions that he now belonged to a group of humans who had been “recruited” by extraterrestrials. It is also worth noting that the supposed Valentich showed no signs of aging, and resembled the photos circulated around the time of his disappearance at the age of 20.

Sources:
www.militaryairshows.co.uk
Yuriy Belikov - Pravda - Moscow January 17 1998
www.skycontrol.ne
Scott Corrales - “Human-Like Ufonauts Reported in Many Countries” - MUFON Journal #405, January 2002
ufos.about.com
www.ufoinfo.com
historicmysteries.com
www.ufologie.net
"The UFO Coverup" - Lawrence Fawcett and Barry J. Greenwood.
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From Phantoms and Monsters blog - August 13, 2010. Isn't it interesting that this exact transcript was on MY blog (UFO Experiences) on Oct. 11, 2005. This is the second time I have read an account of an abduction on Phantoms and Monsters that was either a case that we investigated in Seattle and wrote up in the Missing Link, our magazine at the time, or this one about Frederick Valentich!

I once met a man in Seattle that was friends to the Valentich's. He said that the parents did not believe he was dead and that they kept his room just as he had left it in anticipation that he would come back! Who knows, maybe he will one day.

Aileen

THE CATASTROPHE

The Catastrophe
(Excerpt from Mexico Mystique: Coming 6Th World Of Consciousness by Frank Waters)

The Catastrophe. The world-engulfing cataclysm. The memory of it, the dread of it, is still stamped on the collective unconscious of every Indian soul. Myth and legend tell of the last one, whenever it happened, followed by days of darkness and emptiness before the gods assembled to create a new sun. Predictions and prophecies tell of the one to come. Not only those of the Nahuas and Mayas, but that of the contemporary Hopis who believe the end of the world as we know it is not far off. The time will be marked when Saquasohuh, the Blue Star kachina, dances in the plaza. Far off and still invisible, the blue star will make its appearance soon.

According to Hopi prophecy, the previous worlds were destroyed when their inhabitants became corrupt. The present world is now also corrupt and will be destroyed; only those people who return to their original teachings will escape destruction....

On Second Mesa...an ancient petroglyph depicts a dome-shaped object resting on an arrow which represents travel through space, and the head of a Hopi maiden who represents pristine purity. As the Hopi believe the other planets are inhabited, this petroglyph represents a patuwvota, a “flying shield” similar to a “flying saucer” that came here in the Beginning. So now at the End the sacred ones will arrive from another planet by flying saucers. Many Hopi traditionalists recently have reported seeing flying saucers, all piloted by the beings they call kachinas.

The current Hopi belief brings us back again to the Mesoamerican myth of the catastrophic destruction of previous worlds. Were they all caused by planetary aberrations, refuting our belief in an unalterably ordered solar system? Or were catastrophic disorders in both heaven and earth governed by laws of universal order?

Despite the violent changes that have continuously altered its surface, the Earth is the same organic entity, the “divine creature” as Plato called it. So has it been with mankind. Violent cataclysms have not obliterated it. Mankind has adapted itself to the changes. Races have vanished. One primitive culture, one civilization, arises and falls, to be replaced by another. But mankind remains. If terrestrial catastrophes have often altered the course of human history, all decisive changes in mankind’s development have not been dependent upon them. Rather have they been determined by what seems to be the periodic synchronization of human and cosmic rhythms. Of this periodicity we know little, the scope of the periods is so large. We can only surmise that the physical changes in the surface of the earth and the psychological changes in mankind must be parallel phenomena determined by their coincidence in time. This is why myth, the oldest and most holy witness of the human spirit, is so relevant. It reveals the hidden world that has never faded from human consciousness and bridges the gap between physical and psychical realities.

Frank Waters (1902-1995) was one of the greatest writers to come out of the American West. He wrote often with a deep spiritual dimension drawn from his experiences among the native people of the Southwest.

Since Water’s passing, John Kimmey has been bringing the ancient traditional Hopi teachings forward to modern people. Kimmey explains the Hopi teachings, as handed down to him by the traditional Hopi elders with whom he lived and worked.

Pilgrimage To The Heart Of Native America
27 September - 6 October 2010
John Kimmey


Common 2012 Prophecies from around the World

Hopi Prophecy - Predict a 25yr period of purification followed by the End of Fourth World & beginning of the Fifth.
Mayan Prophecy - Call it the 'end days' or the end of time as we know it.
Maori Prophecy - Say that as the veils dissolve there will be a merging of the physical & spiritual worlds.
Zulu Prophecy - Believe that the whole world will be turned upside down.
Hindu Prophecy - Kali Yuga (end time of man) The Coming of Kalki & critical mass of Enlightened Ones.
Inca Prophecy - Call it the 'Age of Meeting Ourselves Again'.
Aztec Prophecy - Call this the Time of the Sixth Sun. A time of transformation. Creation of new race.
Dogon Prophecy - Say that the spaceship of the visitors, the Nommo, will return in the form of a blue star.
Pueblo Prophecy - Acknowledge it'll be the emergence into the Fifth World.
Cherokee Prophecy - Their ancient calendar ends exactly at 2012 as does the Mayan calendar.
Tibetan Prophecy - Kalachakra teachings are prophesies left by Buddha predicting Coming of the Golden Age.
Egypt Prophecy - According to the Great Pyramid (stone calendar) present time cycle ends in year 2012 A.D.



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FROM THE BOOK coEVOLUTION

BY ALEC NEWALD (about his contact)

Alec is talking with his contact Zeena while on another planet. She is explaining to him the history of earth and why it is the way it is. She explains the force of darkness that rules everything and causes all the problems we have on earth today. Something to learn from!


"There was indeed a time upon your planet, not so long ago in the context of this history lesson, when a "force" came down upon it and did in fact claim it (the Earth) and all upon it as its own. That force - and i know you will find this difficult to accept, Alec (Zenna used my name for the first time) - that force is still among you. It is indeed now a part of all of you, so I suppose you could say it still does own the planet in some way.

"After this force won your planet, it realized it would have a continuous fight on its hands, for you were not as you are now. You were well on your way to enlightenment, with a very strong spiritual base. You were actually almost as strong as this force itself. It had to trick you in order to master you, and while you were down it altered your make-up, your very structure; your DNA, in fact. It crippled you and stunted you, and set you back many thousands of years. It made you into what you are today, which is only a portion of the greatness you can be, for you have not yet even fully recovered. And if that force has its way, you never will!!

"That force is known to most as the 'force of darkness' for it is indeed the enemy of enlightenment. You will please understand that this is a very simplistic description of a most complex entity. Even we do not understand it in its entirety. It is in the air that you breathe and everywhere about you. It has aligned itself to the planet and you. It beats to the pulse of your very planet, for you and the Earth are one and the same. This is one thing your peoples do not seem to comprehend, but you can use this union of the whole to do wondrous things, just as we have.

"Unfortunately, most of your kind fight the natural forces of your wondrous planet. By this I mean you bend them, even break them, to fit your needs. It need not be this way. If your people will just open their minds and hearts to your planet, as many of your ancient races have done in the past, it will show you the way. All is not lost, it just needs to be recalled. Until this is done, we have much need for concern. It is not just Earth planet you are violating as you bend and break Nature in your whims of fancy, for all of all is connected. This is really very basic knowledge. It has been ignored because it suits those who would play with power to ignore it. We, and others, are indeed benevolent to your race, as we all are connected but soon something must be done before your play does meaningful harm to us all!

"We find that there is a need to teach you more about the dark forces that permeate you. You would do well by your people if you take great heed of this lesson and pass on your findings to those of your kind who would listen. The dark force vibrates at a level that is compatible with your brainwave patterns. This much you should already know, but others of your kind have kept it from you.

"In spite of this, some, like you, Alec, are building a resistance to this alien intruder. This is one of the reasons why you find yourself thinking differently from the majority around you. It has enabled you to see more clearly the error of your ways and what must be done. You shall continue along this path a while longer yet, and even doubt your own kind from time to time. Be patient. This is all I can suggest, as inadequate as it may sound. We have been working on these things with you for many a year now. All of your people will find their way with the passing of time.

"As you find with all afflictions, they are easier to contend with if you understand them. I am doing my best to explain all this to you in terms you will understand. Please interject from here on if you do not understand some point, for we do consider the following to be most important.

"Some on your planet have aligned themselves with this 'force.' Note I have said 'aligned' and not 'allied', for there is a difference. You understand this? (I nodded) They have gained much power from the force, and some are even foolish enough to think they have it under control. This is naive, of course, as the force or alien entity is feeding off these people or, rather feeding off the conflicts these people create in their bid for wealth and power. As long as it suits the dark force this shall continue, for the 'fear' emotion is what it lives off.

"The easiest way to defeat this force is to remove fear from your societies. This will, in effect, starve it out. It will then go elsewhere, looking for easier prey. You see, your human race is one of the very few that lives with this most unusual thing called 'emotion', which is why the force came here in the first place. We, too, had emotions once, so I am told, and some are saying we can now experience them again, thanks to the new breeding program we are experimenting with. Forgive me, I digress again.

"You will find some of your kind are trying very hard to harness this most dangerous force. Unfortunately, they do not full understand that it is an entity in its own right and that this is a very dangerous mistake to be making. They think they are playing a game and that they are winning this game. We have tried to warn your people more than once in the past, but no heed has been taken. As your people say, 'it is your life.'

"The worry we have is that your planet breathes with you, in harmony even with your thoughts. To attack the people by using the force in this way is to attack the planet. Be it on your own heads if you invoke the wrath of your planet. There would be little or nothing we could do for your people should that happen. Perhaps you can help us with this message. We have an idea to put to you, but that shall keep until another time for there is still much to be related on other subjects.

"Your societies, right from the very beginning, have engineered fear into your lives. Most of it is an artificial fear of society itself; in other words, you fear your very own laws. Your high priests from long ago shouted down to the common masses, describing what wraths would be set upon them if they did so much as dare to cross the all-mighty gods of their time. Forgive me if I make what you call a 'joke' of this, for these all-mighty gods they describe were people like me or the Guardian, whom you have met.
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A Brave And Startling Truth

We, this people, on a small and lonely planet
Traveling through casual space
Past aloof stars, across the way of indifferent suns
To a destination where all signs tell us
It is possible and imperative that we learn
A brave and startling truth
And when we come to it
To the day of peacemaking
When we release our fingers
From fists of hostility
And allow the pure air to cool our palms

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We, this people, on this small and drifting planet
Whose hands can strike with such abandon
That in a twinkling, life is sapped from the living
Yet those same hands can touch with such healing, irresistible tenderness
That the haughty neck is happy to bow
And the proud back is glad to bend
Out of such chaos, of such contradiction
We learn that we are neither devils nor divines

When we come to it
We, this people, on this wayward, floating body
Created on this earth, of this earth
Have the power to fashion for this earth
A climate where every man and every woman
Can live freely without sanctimonious piety
Without crippling fear

When we come to it
We must confess that we are the possible
We are the miraculous, the true wonder of this world
That is when, and only when
We come to it.

~ Maya Angelou ~



(A Brave and Startling Truth)

THIS TRULY IS UFOs ET AL! EVP RESEARCH

Ongoing EVP Research: Was it John Keel or a Mimicking Ultraterrestrial?
By Brent Raynes, www.mysterious-america.net

Bret Oldham asked his technician (or spirit guide, if you wish) named Bishop to locate John Keel for us, mentioning that today (July 3, 2010) marked the one year anniversary of his passing. Within just seven seconds (Bret and I both had our digital recorders running) we all heard “Keel” boom from the two speakers hooked up to the spirit box . For about two and a half minutes after that attention getting feedback, there seemed a variety of words and voices chaotically competing perhaps for our attention. Bret explained that Bishop was trying to locate Keel, and at one point told the spirits to be patient, they would have a chance to communicate later, that right now we were looking for John Keel. Then again we distinctly heard “Keel” once again. “Hey John, was that you?” Bret asked. Then came the words “John Keel” (13 seconds after the Keel that had just been spoken). A few of the EVP files described can be found here.


“John Keel, Brent Raynes is here and he’d like to speak with you,” Bret said. Three seconds later we heard “good,” by a voice that was similar to a voice that would minutes later reappear again, giving us some surprising responses. “Hello John, this is Brent Raynes. I want to ask you now that you’ve been over there on the other side for a year, how are you doing?” “Good” again, seven seconds after my question.


From this promising beginning, things for awhile seemed to progress very slowly. I asked our “Keel” if his views about ultraterrestrials, his name for what he perceived as an earth-based intelligence that was behind UFOs and many other unexplained manifestations, remained the same or had changed. About 24 seconds later what sounded like “changed” came through. I naturally asked how they had changed, but none of us detected any forthcoming explanation.


I strived to steer the conversation into areas that I knew would have been familiar to the real John Keel, including several private little tidbits taken from our years of personal correspondence. Several minutes seemed to drag on as I tried to get something I could identify as a definite, meaningful response to my questions. Then one of my favorite “Wow” moments occurred. I had asked, “John, what is Jadoo?” Only those really familiar with John Keel know about him and Jadoo. As a young man in his twenties he had traveled through India and met many so-called saints, miracle workers, and snake charmers. Himself a magician he was able to expose a great many of their miracles as frauds, but then he did gain a healthy respect for what he perceived as the genuine telepathic abilities of the spiritual adepts who practiced their faith in isolation and solitude and weren’t trying to sell their performances on the busy streets of major cities catered by tourists. He also tracked a Yeti during his adventures in this part of the world. In 1957 his book entitled Mysteries of the Orient: Jadoo was published. To the people of India, Jadoo was considered black magic.

Anyway, getting back to the spirit box session, it was only about four seconds after I finished my question that a strong male voice, with a seemingly irritated tone to it, replied with what distinctly sounded like “Jadoo”, immediately followed by something like “eh.” We were stunned. Bret looked around and asked if he just said the word, and Sandy Nichols (whose home in Thompson Station, TN we were doing this session) replied, “He did.” Realizing that I needed to strike while the iron was hot, I again repeated, “What is Jadoo?” Within just a couple of seconds that same male voice, stated, “Into the fire, into the fire.” To me that response made perfect sense, as we were touching upon a subject that had consumed a large part of his life’s passion and, as he explained in his book, had certainly consumed the lives of many ignorant, superstitious and fearful people of the Orient. John was certainly no stranger to this fire. His whole life seemed to have brought him to the very edges of it time and time again. In Mothman Prophecies he described the “unruly mob of true believers, cranks and irresponsible self-styled investigators” in the UFO field who he wrote were like “moths attracted to the flame.”

We heard bits and pieces of this voice again, but frustratingly he would fade in and out before all too soon just fading out completely. Before doing so though, I heard the voice say “teach me outside,” whatever that was supposed to mean. Excitedly we began talking among ourselves. I heard a voice over the speakers say “Brent?” It made me feel as though someone was wondering if I was still there. Then, after about a minute of time had expired since it had all begun, that part of the dialogue seemed to be over.


After a short while “Bigfoot” came over the speakers. After about 20 seconds Bret asks John Keel about Bigfoot, and again a clear male voice is heard to say what sounds like “Smuck Bigfoot�see?” This was soon followed by another voice that said “See.” During another part of our session, Bret asked Keel, “Where does the creature Mothman come from?” Immediately what sounds like the word “planet” came through.

Even as this feature is being prepared, Bret continues to go over his own audio of this spirit box session with a proverbial fine tooth comb, using software techniques aimed at further cleaning up, enhancing and thus discerning additional contents of select portions of this session, and, as a result, intriguing new audio anomalies have come to light. One that really caught my attention, and which I had certainly missed in my own review of this material, was the point at which I had asked “John, who are the men in black?” Immediately after that (only one second) a male voice says “Lord!” Now I had indeed heard that one earlier, but the one that I had missed came a few seconds after that where there’s a voice that, it seems to me, is saying, “That’s just stupid, see.” I would not have thought much about it, but that voice and the use of “see” seems to match up with the same sounding voice that said “Smuck Bigfoot” and then said “see.” Soon followed by another voice that said “see.” Interestingly, in this newly isolated portion, within four seconds of the “stupid see” part, you hear another “see,” and then after three seconds a third “see.”


It seems to follow a similar pattern.

Bret had also isolated a portion of audio where he had asked Keel about what Mothman is and within a short time you hear the words “spirit bird.” Bret also isolated a portion of this session where he had said “Thank you, John” and within a second you hear “save us.” Somewhere in the Jadoo portion of it, Bret cleaned up a section that sounds something like “it just hurts to say Satan.”


In a recent July “Filer’s Files” e-newsletter from George Filer, he presented a tribute to John Keel, stating that he had been an “influential author,” mentioning his MIB studies, his observations on “windows” and UFO wave patterns (plus the Wednesday phenomenon), adding how he looked into the paranormal aspects, and concluding with this personal observation: “I met with John Keel and asked what are UFOs all about? He told me after years of study, ‘I have concluded it is the devil and his demons.’”


Researcher Joe Fex had also read this tribute, and emailed the following personal observations to me: “I feel it only fair for clarity’s sake to mention here that as with Charles Fort and Ivan T. Sanderson before him, John Keel had a strong sense of often very sarcastic humor. It got him in a lot of hot water as many would take these wise-assed remarks too seriously and or misinterpret the points he was attempting to express entirely.”


“His comments regarding demonology are simply to say that we are studying the same phenomena that inspired the age of religious superstitious mythology. Keel (himself a life-long devout agnostic) is not attempting to place such concepts, interpretations or identities in a religious context.”


Perhaps Joe’s description of Keel’s “sarcastic humor” and the way he expressed “the same phenomena” from a religious and mythological “context” are points worth pondering when reviewing the statements heard and recorded from the aforementioned spirit box session.

A definite and strong Keel indicator was indeed his “sarcastic humor.” I had to chuckle over this audio file that Bret just shared with me wherein he said, during the session, “John, this is Bret. I’m a friend of Brent’s.” A second later it sounds like the word “bummer.” Yup, it sounded to me like something Keel would have said!


Of course, when John Keel was sharing the physical earth-plane with the rest of us, he warned sternly of taking such manifestations literally. “There are marvelous mimics who can imitate any voice on the telephone,” he wrote me way back in 1970. “It may be vain to hope that we can ever pin everything down and make something rational out of it.”

Bret was recording minutes before the spirit box session and picked up several apparent evps. While his wife Gina was talking an unidentified whisper-type voice seems to interrupt with “get out.” Bret was arranging the equipment and a female sounding evp is heard to say “don’t touch here.” Sandy was saying “Tonight let’s speak real loud” (so that the recorders would pick us up clearly), at which point an evp is heard saying what sounds like “pray.”


As the first spirit box session was ending, Sandy wanted us all to come over to his side of the foyer, to the dining room, where he had felt a presence and smelled a strange odor. Gina was sitting fairly close to Sandy and had also detected the odor. “That’s his pipe smell,” Sandy exclaimed. “There is no doubt that was his tobacco smell. Now it could have been somebody else who smoked the same tobacco.” Gina agreed that was what it smelled like to her, stating that her father and an uncle had both smoked pipes too.

In reviewing the audio of this portion of the evening, while we were trying to figure out the origin of the strange smell, I located two apparent evps myself. Most of the group discerned one of the evps as saying “farted,” which was noteworthy since just a few seconds earlier Bret had jokingly asked Sandy, “You didn’t pass gas did you?”


I realized that sometimes when a presence is sensed and seems to create some sort of physical manifestation, a photograph of the scene will produce anomalous imagery. With that in mind, I took a quick snapshot of my wife Joan and Bret, as they stood in the area leading into the dining room where Sandy and Gina both detected the odd odor. In fact, it was the strongest right about where Bret was standing, and where he was standing was a strange dark area in the picture. When I showed it to Bret he called out, “Sandy, look at this. Remember the pictures we took before with the black mass?” “It could be talking to us right now,” Bret remarked. Then he recalled, “I was walking out of a bedroom upstairs and I felt it and I told Gina, ‘Take a picture now.’ You could see this black mass coming toward me. Right after that Gina kept taking pictures. It was like it was going through me. You could still see the white shirt and like it was coming out again.”


“We tried to duplicate it,” Bret added. They were not able to achieve the same effect, and neither was I. The “black mass” I had photographed and that they had taken upstairs in Sandy’s house weeks earlier, looked like the same effect. In both instances, a presence was sensed, Bret was in the picture, but a different photographer and camera was used.

I took two more photographs immediately afterwards. They turned out normal. The photos are here.


“We’re beginning to believe that the foyer is a portal within itself,” Bret emailed me a couple days ago, when he was describing the evps obtained just before our spirit box session at that location. “Just way too many different spirits gathering there. Great place for spirit box sessions too!” It should be noted, that when Sandy had the house constructed a few years back, he had a large amethyst crystal buried in the ground beneath the foyer and invited spirit influences to manifest in his home, so long as they behaved themselves and were not disruptive or destructive.


After the spirit box session in the foyer, we took us a long break before beginning a second session in Sandy’s home office, located in his spacious pool house in the back of his home. For a good two hours we talked about alien abductions, as the second session was going to be an “alien” session instead of a strictly spirit one. This wasn’t their first “alien” session, but this was mine and Joan’s.


I have known Sandy for a number of years, and it only seemed natural when he later became a ghost hunter too. Like ghosts, Sandy’s ufonauts defied what to us seem like fixed physical laws. In my first interview with him for this magazine (AP #47, Summer 1999) he recalled this experience of seeing a grey alien while on vacation in May 1998 in Destin, Florida. Sandy was about to descend the stairs from the second floor of his condo when it happened. “Smack dab in the middle of the air of the foyer itself, about second floor level, a small grey being appeared. It just appeared in the middle of the air and then�it literally floated across the mid air and actually went through the rail. It just went into the bedroom. Just floated right in there.”


Another abductee I recently met (known by many as Zayne) is working with Sandy using the spirit box. Their theory seems to be that the aliens know what they’re doing because they have “implants” and so because these beings are monitoring these two men then they know what they’re doing at all times and can easily engage them as well in these AM frequency spirit box sessions. They have noticed that with the “aliens” in these sessions they seem easier to hear than the spirits as there seems to be less static and noise interference. In a previous session, the “aliens” communicated some interesting information, and seemed quite aware of the intimate details of both men’s abduction experiences. For example, Zayne was told “they cut your ass,” when in fact he does have a strange and unexplained scar in his anal region. “They told us we humans were not free and this was not our planet,” Sandy told me. “Zayne and I are breeding stock and they experiment on us.” “We were very impressed with what we got,” Zayne noted. “Notice how sometimes it’s the spirits answering but sometimes they answer as if it’s the aliens. Even seem to be void of any emotion in the voice characteristics.”

“They asked the purpose of fish,” Sandy noted. “Kind of strange question since they obviously know we humans eat fish. Then Zayne and I kind of figured it out. We think they were asking about the purpose of the fish I have in my fish tank here in my office. Guess they don’t know that keeping fish has a calming effect on us humans.”


“Throughout the many abduction experiences I’ve had I’ve learned about them and what they want and need,” Zayne told me. “There are the little Greys who do most of the work. There are tall ones who dress in a different uniform and who are clearly in charge. Everything with the little ones is done in a very matter of fact routine manner. They do not have emotions per se and are very logical thinking beings. If anything happens that is illogical they get confused and don’t really know how to react.”

“They work in groups of 4 or 5 when they come after you. I have memories of them being outside my window when I was a child and in my bedroom at other times but I have no memories of how I’m taken aboard the craft itself. I’m usually taken to a ‘receiving room’ before being taken to other parts of the craft for whatever procedure they are planning on doing. The light is very bright but oddly enough not blinding. It is a very sterile, cold type of environment. I don’t mean cold temperature wise, just the vibe about it. Everything is rounded and mostly a silver gray color although I have seen some blue type material that is used in bed type structures and on some seating.”


“Not all the events are medical related. The medical procedures are not pleasant and sometimes are extreme. I have several scars across my lower back by my spine and puncture scars on the side of my upper torso. I have a pronounced scar under my scrotum going to my anus. Yet, I have never had any type of surgery or accident that would have caused such scarring. I have had these small rashes come up in my upper groin area that no doctors were able to determine what it was. They eventually disappeared on their own. I have had a long history of episodes of unexplained nose bleeds, often waking up with blood on my pillow. I do believe that they have also healed me and kept me healthy too. I’m sure for their own uses. I have never had any sickness except for sinus infections that I’ve gotten about every 4 or 5 years for at least the last 30 years. I’ve always felt that in and of itself was very strange. I once had what looked like skin cancer about the size of a dime come up on my chest. I was visiting my mom and showed it to her to get her opinion. She told me that it looked like skin cancer to her. She had skin cancer before and knew what it looked like. She told me to get to the dermatologist right away. I made an appointment to have it looked at and most likely removed, but I ended up never having to see the dermatologist. Two days later I woke up and noticed the skin cancer was gone! No sign of it ever being there. I rushed over to show the area to my mom again. She was speechless. It was as if nothing had ever been in that spot on my chest.”


“They are also very interested in how our emotions work. They have done some very cruel experiments on me in regards to measuring my emotional responses to certain external criteria that they artificially produce.”


“They have a chamber that they use for some of these emotional mind experiments. It would remind you very much of the holodeck from Star Trek. They will put you in there and somehow create a scene based on your memory. Pull something from your subconscious that had deep meaning to you. They’ve done this to me on several occasions. At first you have no idea what is happening but the experience becomes so real that you are consumed by it and go along with the experience. They once put me in there and all of a sudden I was in a familiar setting and then I saw my dog who had died several years before come running up to me all happy to see me. He was like he was when he was in his younger years. I questioned it at first because my logical mind knew he had died but it was so real and I was so happy to once again see him and pet him. I knelt down to pet him and give him a hug. He kept wagging his tail and licking me and appeared to be very happy to see me again too. The more I accepted this reality the deeper the feelings of it got. This went on for what seemed like 10 or 15 minutes and then suddenly without warning it all just vanished. My dog Sam was gone. Everything was gone. I was alone in this barren looking room. At first I felt like crying but I realized what they had done to me and that they were observing my emotional responses to this event. When I saw them come in to get me I was extremely angry and started yelling at them and threatening them. I’m sure that’s exactly what they wanted me to do so they could observe that emotion too. It was useless. It was only moments and they had mentally controlled me again.”


“I’ve had many experiences throughout my life with these creatures. Medical, sexual, emotional, and mental. They have a definite agenda and it does involve cross breeding and creating a hybrid race. I’ve also seen the hybrids. This is going on, on a grand scale. I do believe that there are certain genetic traits they have found favorable. Those of us unfortunate enough to possess those genes will be the ones they use.”


Then we did the “alien session.” Sandy and Zayne asked their various questions, and then Sandy invited me to come closer and join them, as I had told them earlier that I had some more questions. Actually this was an experiment I had planned earlier, using 3 x 5 index cards with certain things written on them. Only I knew beforehand what these words were. I wanted to determine if these “voices” could “see” these words on these small cards, or if they had to hear us in order to respond to our questions. The first card had Ivan Sanderson written on it. Ivan Sanderson had been a very good friend and a colleague of John Keel. We initially asked for the first name, and then the last name. We did get what sounded like Ivan, but the second time around we got a very distinct “Sanderson” over the speakers! The next card was “MIB”. We heard M but weren’t getting the whole thing. Sandy said, “We’re only getting one letter. Give us all three letters.” Then only about four seconds later we hear what sounds to us like “MIB.” All three of us heard it. “Oh MIB, wow!” Sandy exclaimed. We had both jumped back from the speakers. Slapping me on my arm he said, “Pretty slick, isn’t it?” I had to agree. The entire evening had been an impressive one!


Bret also located on the MIB card part of the second session, before we had gotten the response just cited, a place where he himself asked what was on the card, and the words “dark spirits” can be heard. This may too be a significant answer as Keel (as mentioned earlier) expressed many of these things in a religious context. Referring back to that same personal letter I got from Keel back in 1970, he also wrote: “MIB apparitions are a classic and traditional offshoot of witchcraft and black magic. That lore is filled with reports of MIB incidents.”

In addition, Bret pointed out how during the effort to get the “voices” to give us the letters to MIB, the name “Keel” came through twice. At first this made no sense to me, but then I realized that the real John Keel liked to kid around sometimes and dress up as an MIB. I even emailed Bret and Sandy a picture of him doing so once. “I thought the name Keel coming through made perfect sense and even got a bit of a laugh from it,” Bret wrote later. “His connection to that term and us getting his name when we asked what was on the card was pretty cool I thought!”

THREE ANCIENT SIGHTING CASES

600 BC

EZEKIAL'S SIGHTING (KING JAMES VERSION)

"Now it came to pass in the thirtieth year, in the fourth month, in the fifth day of the month, as I was among the captives by the river of Chebar, that the heavens were opened, and I saw visions of God...

Out of the midst thereof came the likeness of four living creatures... they had the likeness of a man...

Now as I beheld the living creatures, behold one wheel upon the earth by the living creatures...

The appearance of the wheels and their work was like unto the color of a beryl: and their appearance and their work was as it were a wheel...

And when they went, they went upon their four sides; and they turned not when they went.

As for their rings, they were so high that they were dreadful; and their rings were full of eyes round them four.

And when the living creatures went, the wheels went by them: and when the living creatures were lifted up from the earth, the wheels were lifted up.

LATE EIGHTH OR EARLY NINTH CENTURY IN FRANCE

One day, among other instances, it chanced at Lyons that three men and a woman were seen descending from these aerial ships. The entire city gathered about them, crying out they were magicians sent by Charlemagne's enemy to destroy the French harvest.

In vain, the four innocents sought to vindicate themselves, saying they were their own country folk and had been carried away a short time since by miraculous men who had shown them unheard of marvels. Luckily, the Bishop of Lyons pronounced the incident as false, saying it was not true these men had fallen from the sky, and what they (the town folks) said they had seen there was impossible. The people believed what their good Bishop said rather than their own eyes and set at liberty the four ambassadors... from the ship.

1211 A.D. IRELAND

There happened in the borough of Cloera, one Sunday, while the people were at Mass, a marvel. In this town is a church dedicated to St. Kenerus. It befell that an anchor was dropped from the sky, with a rope attached to it, and one of the flukes caught in the arch above the door. The people rushed out of the church and saw in the sky a ship with men on board, floating before the anchor cable, and they saw a man leap overboard and jump down to the anchor, as if to release it. He looked as if he were swimming in water. The town folk rushed up and tried to seize him; but the Bishop forbade the people to hold the man, for it might kill him, he said. The man was freed, and hurried up to the ship, where the crew cut the rope and the ship sailed out of sight.

Note: The above three cases were found by Jacque Valle and were printed in UFO's Past Present and Future by Robert Emenegger

THE FINDING OF FLIGHT 19

By Wes Bateman

The loss of Flight 19 on December 5, 1945, is a classic disappearance that took place in the Bermuda Triangle. It began with a routine training flight participated in by five Grumman Avenger torpedo bombers, also known as TBMS. The planes on the mission were designated Flight 19. Their radio identification code was the letters F-T.

It is reported that 4 of the TBMs carried crews of 3 men and one carried a crew of 2. Thus the flight consisted of 14 men.

While returning to their base at Fort Lauderdale Naval Air Station, the flight leader Lt. Charles C. Taylor radioed back to the base that the flight was in some kind of trouble. Apparently they were lost, and the confusion continued for about an hour, after which the radio signals grew weaker and weaker until they disappeared. The 5 planes and 14 men aboard them were then reported missing.

During the hour of confusion it is reported that the following radio conversation took place between Lt. Taylor and the For Lauderdale tower.

Taylor: "Calling control tower...emergency. We seem to have gone off course... we can't see the ground any more. I repeat: we can't see the ground."

Another reporting source states that this transmission included the statement "We can't see the ground or the sun."

Tower: "What is your position?"

Taylor: "We are not certain of our position. We don't know exactly where we are; we seem to be lost."

Tower: "In that case, you must fly west."

Taylor: "We can't tell which is west. Nothing is working properly. It's nuts...we can't be sure of any directions. Even the sea looks funny..."

It then became more difficult to pick up messages from Flight 19. The aircraft progressively lost contact with the tower, but every now and then snatches of conversation between the pilots were heard. They were discussing the possibility of running out of fuel, of 75-knot winds, of malfunctioning magnetic and gyro compasses.

According to some reports, the last words heard from Flight 19 were: "We are entering white water. We are completely lost."

Reporter Art Ford stated that another radio conversation took place between flight leader Taylor and a fellow Navy pilot Lt. F. Cox, who was in the air but not part of Flight 19. The conversation went as follows:

Cox: "What is your altitude? I will fly south to meet you."

Taylor: "Don't come after me. They look like they're from outer space. Don't come after me!"

The test of these and all other radio transmissions from Flight 19 are on public record in the National Archives in Washington D.C.

One report states that Taylor was overheard to either turn over the command of the flight to another pilot in the formation, or turn over the flying duties of his plane. This is not clear.

It is also reported that one of the Avenger pilots broke formation and took off on his own to find safer and more familiar skies.

The fact that the compasses and radios of all five planes malfunctioned at the same time and that Lt. Taylor did not comply with the constant request that he switch his radio to the emergency frequency adds to the mystery.

Fort Lauderdale sent a Martin Mariner (a large amphibious craft) to try to rescue the five avengers. There were 13 men aboard the Mariner.

One hour after take-off the Martin Mariner disappeared, too. The control tower tried in vain to contact its pilot. What happened to the Martin Mariner?

A little after 7 p.m., the Naval Air Station at Opalocka picked up an almost inaudible radio signal that continually repeated "FT...FT," which was the call sign of Flight 19. Could this have been a communication from the Avengers?

Nothing was found of the 5 TBMs or the Mariner, in spite of the intensive search by 240 land-based aircraft, 70 aircraft from the aircraft carrier Solomons, 4 destroyers, 18 Coast Guard patrol boats, hundreds of private aircraft and yachts and boats of all sorts. Nothing was found: no inflatable rafts, not the least trace of oil, not a sign of wreckage. Avenger-type aircraft are known to float from minutes to hours. Why were no bodies, oil slicks or wreckage of any type found? Why didn't any of the men use their parachutes and life rafts?

During the search of December 6, 1945, a Navy Privateer, which was a 1-tail version of the Army Air Corps 2-tail B-24, also disappeared without a trace.

A report published by the Navy after several months of inquiry offered no explanation for the disappearances.

During the evening of August 16, 1985, I was engaged in assembling and combining videotape segments that contained accounts and pictures pertaining to the subject of UFOs. I combined three videotape segments, which were:

1. A series of computer enhancements of a Swiss Air Force jet that had been photographed along with a UFO.

2. The account of the missing five TBM (Grumman Avenge torpedo bombers) and a Martin Mariner (seaplane) in the Bermuda Triangle.

3. UFO photographs and motion picture footage that was taken by American astronauts as they conducted missions in space.

The videotape from which I was dubbing segment 3 was several years old and had not been played recently. On several occasions during the dubbing process, the player deck misidentified the original recoding speed of the tape. This caused the tape to slow down, distorting parts of the dub. To accomplish my work, I had to run the tape over and over again until the problem cleared up.

During these numerous reruns my attention was drawn to a picture of an odd-shaped UFO that was photographed by the crew of Apollo 11 on July 16, 1969, while they were en route to the first moon landing.

Even though the shape of this UFO was irregular, it looked familiar to me. I knew I had seen that shape before. I soon realized that I had in fact seen something similar to that shape only several minutes before when I was dubbing the segment that contained the computer-analysis pictures of the UFO and Swiss Air Force jet.

I then ran off a black-and-white photo of the Apollo 11 UFO on my video printer. After rotating the video-print from the vertical to the horizontal, I concluded that the UFO had the shape of an airplane that was either encased in ice or some other material.

Following the contour of the UFO from nose to tail, I noted the familiar blunt nose and long canopy that covered the two-seat cockpit, the bubble of the rear gun turret, and the high tail of the Grumman TBM Avenger torpedo bomber.

Returning to the segment that pertained to the missing planes (Flight 19) I made a video photo of an Avenger for comparison with the Apollo UFO. This comparison left me in little doubt that the Apollo 11 UFO was the remains of a Grumman Avenger and most likely one of the five that once composed Flight 19.

In studying the Apollo UFO, two things about the shape of the object bothered me. (1) The tail looked a little too close to the rear gun turret. (2) There are two small arc-like indentations in the bottom of the object just below the position of the cockpit.

Both of these questions were answered by a friend who at one time flew this type of plane when dropping Borate on forest fires.

There are two possible answers for this tail appearing to be too close to the rear turret. (1) The angle from which the astronauts took the picture may have somewhat distorted the true perspective.

The second possibility and the one I presently favor, is that (2) the fuselage is bent at an angle due to the tail section hitting the waters of the Atlantic in what my friend called a "boomerang crash." From personal knowledge he said that it was common or an Avenger that crashes into the sea to end up with a bent rear fuselage.

My friend then answered the question of the existing arc-like indentations in the belly of the plane/UFO. His answer was simple: The indentations represent either the collapsed torpedo bombing doors or their absence.

The silhouette (shadow) or a scale model TBM was superimposed over a slide projection of the Apollo UFO finding that all features fit exactly.

The Apollo 11 UFO photo was taken when the spacecraft was one day out on route to the moon. I have not ascertained what distance Apollo 11 was from the earth when the photo was taken.

One thing is quite certain, the Avenger in the astronaut's photo did not and could not attain orbital velocity and insert itself into any orbit, let alone an orbit that ranged far out into space. This, of course, means that something natural, supernaturatural, or man-made that had these physical abilities in 1945 places at least one of the missing five planes into earth orbit.

One explanation is that some freak natural force such as a giant tornado-like vortex sucked up the Avengers and accelerated them to a speed in excess of 18,000 miles an hour (gravitational escape velocity). Another explanation is that some power source planted by some sort of intelligence went into action either by plan or chance. Both are somewhat discredited by the communications Lt. Taylor had with Lt. Cox: "Don't come after me. They look like they're from outer space. Don't come after me!" From Lt. Taylor's words we can conclude that he might have been encountering at the time more than one something (thus the plural terms "they" and "they're" in his communication). Then again he may have had sight of one thing that he thought contained a number of occupants who in his opinion were demonstrating something he was sure was not of this world.

It is reported that the planes were armed and their mission actually entailed dropping explosives into the sea. If this is true, this activity might have triggered the fate of the airmen involved.

Perhaps in the course of their bombing they accidentally hit and damaged a submerged alien spacecraft -- or maybe they had actually been sent on a mission to target the spacecraft. If the latter is true, you can bet the Navy will never admit it.

Let's for the moment imagine that the Avengers were either deliberately or accidentally drawn into a force field that relates to a field-driven propulsion system of the damaged extraterrestrial spacecraft. Such a field driven system might have some active electromagnetic components and gravitational effects, which in turn would account for the malfunctioning of the magnetic and gyro compasses of the Avengers, causing Lt. Taylor to say: "We can't tell which is west. Nothing is working properly. It's nuts... we can't be sure of any direction. Even the sea looks funny...."

It is safe to speculate that at least 1 of the 4 Avengers (or 5, counting the one that reportedly left the flight formation) were drawn into the vortex of a spacecraft's propulsion system (as birds are sometimes drawn into jet engines). After that maybe other things -- such as large volumes of foaming seawater -- were also drawn into the spacecraft's field drive, causing Lt. Taylor to transmit the statement "We are entering white water. We are completely lost!"

It is possible that Lt. Taylor did comply with the request to switch his radio to the emergency frequency, but perhaps radio waves of that frequency could not escape the confines of the spacecraft's field drive.

At this point we can imagine the extraterrestrial spacecraft accelerating into space, either in ignorance of or with full knowledge that they were dragging with them 1 or more of the 5 Avengers plus large amounts of seawater.

Such an ascent must have been quite rapid, and by the time the spacecraft reached outer space the Avenger pilots would be dead, entombed in their planes now sheathed in frozen seawater.

Upon reaching outer space, the Avengers, now having acquired a velocity that would permit them to orbit the earth (for at least 2 years) were either jettisoned by the spacecraft or released automatically when the spacecraft changed its propulsion field for the purpose of space travel. In either case the Avengers could have been dropped off at intervals that might now separate them in the same orbit or in successively higher orbits by thousands of miles.

When the question of why the extraterrestrials would do such a thing is considered, many thoughts come to mind:

(1) Their actions might represent a disregard for the lives of what they might consider to be a lower life form.

(2) Their encounter and involvement with Flight 19 might have been an accident caused by a malfunction of their propulsion system or by damage to the system sustained from bombs dropped unknowingly or deliberately by the avengers on the spaceship(s) lying submerged in the sea. If the Avengers did not practice live bombing runs that day, perhaps their practice attack dives could have been interpreted by the extraterrestrials as a real threat.

I prefer to think that the Martin Mariner and the Privateer became lost for different, unrelated reasons, because the alternative implies that they were deliberately destroyed or captured by the extraterrestrials out of revenge.

Returning to the subject of the Apollo 11 UFO, the photograph indicates that the plane might have "boomerang crashed" into the sea, thus bending its fuselage at an angle. This could be the only plane of Flight 19 that is in orbit. It could very well be the plane that left the formation.

In this possible scenario, four of the Avengers and their crews are taken aboard the extraterrestrial spacecraft intact, and the fifth plane and its crew are fished from the sea. Later the plane and maybe its crew are abandoned in orbit.

In the spring of 1990, a supermarket tabloid headlined: "World War Two Bomber Found on the Moon." An accompanying picture provided by a Soviet space probe showed a US Navy Privateer resting in a lunar crater. Is this the Privateer that disappeared while looking for the 5 TBMs and the Mariner?

It is hopeful to think that all the men of Flight 19 are now alive and well on some distant world, learning all they can about the culture and technology of their extraterrestrial hosts. Some day they might return in the manner depicted in the motion picture Close Encounters of the Third Kind and tell us what really happened on that day some 40 years ago.

Nolan Luftus of Salt Lake City,Utah, was an employee of McDonnel-Douglas and was present at Mission Control during the Apollo 11 mission. His firsthand account of the Apollo UFO sighting and photography by the spacecraft's crew is as follows:

"The UFO was in orbit at about a 6000-mile altitude. At first the Apollo crew thought that it was their discarded booster rocket, but it was later proven that the rocket stage was some 6000 miles away at the time. The booster rocket was about forty feet long (which is the same length as a TBM)."

The Apollo crew used several rolls of film to photograph the UFO. Because of the importance of the Apollo 11 mission, little was said or done about the UFO until the crew and photographs were returned to earth.

Even though a number of photographs of the UFO were taken, it appears that only one of the exposures has been widely circulated.

NASA's photoanalysis of the UFO initially declared the UFO to be a "formation of ice" and later stated it was a piece of debris only 10 inches long and from the Apollo spacecraft itself. NASA would have us believe that the highly trained Apollo astronauts' estimated 40-foot length of the object was wrong. What do you think?
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Wes Bateman is a telepath with direct, open contact to ETs from the open state, who are not subject to earth mankind's frequency-barrier-caused closed brain and limited consciousness. Bateman has 30 years of ongoing information on the open state.

This article formerly ran in the Missing Link Number 109. Wes spoke about this at the conference of the UFOCCI in Cottonwood, Arizona.

ATTACKED BY A VANISHING HOMINID

Posted: 20 Jul 2010 12:53 PM PDT
About three years ago, I had a strange encounter in the length of woods that borders my house. It was winter and I was on one of my routine hikes with my brother. We would periodically stop and rest, listening to the sounds of the forest. We were climbing a steep hill and having a hell of a time with it. Our march was halted when I stepped in a pothole and when I finally dragged my foot out we decided to take a breather. That's when I saw it. We were just standing there, making small talk, when out of the corner of my eye I saw a figure. I turned and saw a large, lanky creature watching us from atop a hill. The very instant my gaze fixed on it, it began to barrel down the hill at us. I tried to run or even alert my brother, but I couldn't move. I was paralyzed with fear.

I heard my brother asked "what's the matter?"...but I couldn't tell him because I didn't know. I didn't know what I was looking at. I was finally able to break my paralysis and was about to tell him what was happening and then it was gone. Just POOF! Like smoke in the wind. Needless to say I hauled ass out of there. If I was to describe the thing I would say that it was at least 6'1 with some of the longest hair I've ever seen. It had a slim build and was completely nude. It's body was pale with a large patch of hair on it's chest. I never caught sight of it's face or any reproductive parts, but I have the feeling it was male.

Every time I look back on it and try to analyze what it might have been I always come up short. I can't come up with a believable or concrete explanation. I sometimes doubt I saw anything at all. Granted this is not the first strange experience I've had in those woods. The disembodied baby's cry comes to mind.

Cody B.
Goodlettsville, Tennessee

NOTE: this is an interesting anecdote. Was it a hominid spirit or a interdimensional being...or something completely different? I recently received another interesting, but very brief account from a reader in Pennsylvania. She states that she witnessed what looked like a feral human while in vicinity of Tiadaghton State Forest in Lycoming County during the late 1970's. This being was described as only 4 ft. tall with reddish hair all over the body, though sparse on the chest where she noticed what she thought were breasts. The facial features were human in all respects. This hominid stood for a few seconds, made no sound, turned to it's left, took a step and faded away...as if it was walking through a wall of water. The email didn't go into much more detail but she did state that the area did have 'old ghost towns' in it...Lon - From Phantoms and Monsters blog

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AND NOW A SIGHTING RIGHT HERE IN CORTEZ, CO
By Aileen


Two young men in 1987 were walking from Empire street, turned left onto Broadway, walking south. They both saw this tall sasquatch, all white, with long hair under its arms watching them from between buildings. He was standing kind of looking at them with curiosity, like what are you? He had his hand around the trunk of this little tree like you would hold a can of soda. He looked to be about eight feet tall, at least.

The one young man asked the other, do you see what I see? He said what are you seeing? A sasquatch! They started running south to one of the boys homes. They were running as fast as they could and the sasquatch was just walking along, keeping up with them.

They ran to the boy's home and shut the door. They looked back to see if it had come to the house but it had disappeared. They figured it had come up out of the deep canyon in back of those businesses.

About a year later one of the young men was talking to a girl who told him a strange story. She lived in Crown Point, NM. A group of her friends would go to this one area in the forest and party. This one night she had to work so they went on without her. Later they went back and picked her up. They were looking for this Sasquatch when they got back. After they arrived in the area where they partied this white sasquatch jumped onto their car. It started throwing rocks at them and then it dented the car in with a stick and was trying to break out the front windshield. The group had scratches on them from its attack. They started the car and got out of there.

They were going to start a fire and perhaps that is why the Sasquatch reacted like that. He didn't want them to, maybe he had experienced a forest fire before! Mostly he was trying to scare them away, which worked.

This one looked just like the one the boys had seen in Cortez. It too was white and had long hair. It had a mostly human face. An experience none of them will ever forget.

The girl told the young man about this before he told her what he had seen. He was surprised that it also was white. I haven't heard of any white Sasquatch until this case.

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This report was filed in reference to a sighting in Jefferson County, TX Report #01060011
Occurred October 15, 1984 -(Submitted April 7, 2006)


Witness Observation:


I was squirrel hunting out around Pine Island Bayou in the early afternoon. I was walking down a make shift trail running beside the bayou. The area was pretty open and you could see everything clearly. No high brush or dense wooded areas either. I was sitting on an old tree that had fallen and was snacking on something and petting my dog that was with me, half lab/half pit bull. We were sitting there when all of a sudden we heard this splashing noise coming from the bayou which was probably 50 feet to the side of me. The splashing was probably 200 feet away from me down the trail. My dog snapped to attention and I had my shotgun pulled and ready for whatever we saw. Up the bank came this large creature walking on 2 legs. It looked right at me and took a step toward me when my dog started growling and barking at it. It was probably 6'5" - 7'0", covered in dark brown, somewhat wet hair from head to toe. It looked right at me and it looked like the face of a man who had not shaved in many years but it was very intimidating. Well, my dog started to run toward it and it picked up an old log and threw it at him, then turned around and ran back across the bayou and back into the woods on the other side. It had made a kind of growling/yelling noise when it threw the log at him. I did shoot at it when it threw the log but I only had a single shot .410 and I do not know if any of the buckshot hit him. It scared me so bad that instead of running back up the trail I had came down, I just ran straight into the woods behind me until I came to the first house in the back part of the sub-division and never looked back until I hit the road that was there and waited for my dog to catch up to me. From that day forth I have never went back into those woods or any woods around me. I have not told anyone until recently we saw the report on the Travel Channel and I told my wife what I saw. I did not stay around or go back and look for anything. I will say this, I still have dreams/nightmares of that moment.
Physical Evidence: I did not go back and look nor did I tell anyone about it.

Sounds: It growled/yelled

Additional Observations: Large creature walking on 2 legs. It was probably 6' 5" - 7' 0", covered in dark brown, somewhat wet hair from head to toe. It looked right at me and it looked like the face of a man who had not shaved in many years but it was very intimidating. No. Too far away to notice.

This was at Pine Island Bayou, back of Bevil Oaks Subdivision, (now part of a Big Thicket National Preserve corridor)

Time and Conditions: 2:00pm - Clear and Cool. Swampy & wooded.


Investigator's Comments:
Bob Hilliard

I spoke with the witness on 25 May 2006. He gave me no reasons to dismiss his report, was very cordial and seemed very sincere about what he allegedly saw.

As stated in his report, the witness told me that he was hunting for squirrels with his dog behind the Bevil Oaks subdivision and was sitting about 50 feet from Pine Island Bayou. He reportedly heard a loud splashing sound and then sounds like something large coming through the water to his side of the bayou. Thinking maybe it was a deer, the witness stated that he crouched down so that it would not see him. The witness went on to tell me that to his surprise, "a large creature with dark brown, almost black hair, walking on two legs, came up the bank."

The witness said that it looked straight at him and its face looked very human. The witness reported that when his dog started barking, the strange subject made sort of a growling yelp, threw a small log their way, then turned and went back across the bayou and into the woods. He said the bayou is at least five feet deep but the subject had no problem at all crossing it.

The witness stated that the wind was behind him and the subject was about 50 to 75 yards away so there was no smell. He also stated that he had seen some tracks earlier but thought the reason they were so big was because the person making them was sliding in the slick mud.

After thinking about it later on, the witness said:
1. No one would be walking around out there barefoot and;
2. He didn't remember seeing any slide marks.

When asked if he had had any other experiences in the area or heard of any more sightings, the witness replied that two of his friends had supposedly heard some strange whooping and howling in the same area and that there was another alleged sighting a couple of years later further on down the bayou. The witness had not heard of anything recently.


It is my assessment that the witness seemed credible, was very forthcoming and answered all my questions as best he could. The witness told me that he just recently told his wife about his sighting because he had seen the TBRC on the Travel Channel; according to his own testimony, he has never told anyone else.
The area in which the sighting occurred is now quite developed, although much less so at the time of the alleged event. About three miles from this area to the west, the Big Thicket National Preserve Bayou corridor continues into Little Pine Island Bayou, which eventually runs through the Lance Rosier Unit, and on northward toward the Turkey Creek and Big Sandy Creek units; none of the units mentioned here are without reported "wild man" sightings, both aged and recent.


Sources:
Phantoms and Monsters archives
bigfootsightings.org
BFRO.net
www.texasbigfoot.org
southwestpaddler.com